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What i learnt from taking part on L P

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What i learnt from taking part on L P

Post by Graham Bell on Wed Jan 29 2014, 04:48

One important thing I did learn from reading and conversing on Larvatus Prodeo is that Australian society has changed.   A lot of specific changes were obvious, of course, but participating on LP drew a lot of these individual changes into patterns.

The traditional three social classes ( and their sub-classes) and the traditional Left-Right political spectrum have been supplemented - and largely replaced - by several newer groupings: sub-cultures, perhaps.

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Feminists

Post by jumpy on Tue Feb 04 2014, 13:32

What I learnt from LP was that feminist totally ignore the biggest, and spreading, misogynistic evil in the world = Islam.
Even Gillard didn't " call it out " in the M.E. the other day.
I raise the issue but got [ redacted ], " stoush bait " or some sh1t.
I suspect the Mod at the time was and is an admitted feminist.
What are they afraid of ?
Even Val, who could find rampant sexism in comment about a Vegemite sandwich, turns a blind eye.
I can't explain this phenomenon, perhaps someone can help me.
Feminists?

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Re: What i learnt from taking part on L P

Post by Admin on Tue Feb 04 2014, 15:48

Can understand your fear and concern about Islam, Jumpy, but don't forget that a lot of decent people who try to do good in the world take their guidance from Islam.  

Strange but I can't recall much discussion on LP about Islam .... shall check the LP archives next weekend to see what was said about Islam and in what contexts.

((Hope this reply comes up under my own nom-de-moi and not under "Admin" again))

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Islam

Post by Jumpy on Sat Feb 08 2014, 05:47

In fact Islam was totally ignored on LP.
Consider all the pet subjects there.
According to sharia law gays are killed, not offended or discriminated against, Killed!
Adultery or promiscuity ? killed.
Express free speech about religion ? ( offend a dead prophet ) beheaded.
Question male superiority deserves a jolly good thrashing or killed.
Forced marriage, genital mutilation, rape victims punished for provocation ?
No, not a peep.
And its not just LP but the entire left.
Its like " the conservatives hate em, so we gotta love em "
Islam is about as anti-liberal and anti-progresive as you can find, yet silence from the most vocal warriors.

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Re: What i learnt from taking part on L P

Post by Paul Burns on Sat Feb 08 2014, 08:10

Wrong , jumpy.
There was at least one very long discussion on Islamic dress which occurred again and again

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reply to PB

Post by jumpy on Sat Feb 08 2014, 13:28

That's it ?
A spirited debate on dress code, wow, well, that changes everything.
Even with your eyes fixed you choose to keep them closed.

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Re: What i learnt from taking part on L P

Post by Graham Bell on Sun Feb 09 2014, 15:51

Jumpy:  It wasn't just Larvatus Prodeo that seemed to be reluctant to have robust discussions about islam and what it means to the future of Australia.   That went right across the board.    There were more No-Go Areas than you could poke a big stick at: the shameful neglect of our own South Sea Islander pioneers, the stealing of babies from unmarried mothers, migration fraud, the awarding of medals and honours to the manifestly undeserving, dangerously incompetent professionals, dodgy degrees - these and a heck of a lot more were no-go areas.   Discussions that stuck to the accepted line were alright but heaven help anyone who deviated from the accepted line.   The informal social penalties for stepping out of line were - and are - both nebulous and harsh; that's why I had a good belly-laugh at whinges from Australian commentators about the lack of freedom of expression in Russia.

I think you are unfair picking on Larvatus Prodeo alone when everybody in Australian intellectual life was self-censoring because they were dead-scared of being branded racist or red-neck or discriminatory or inflammatory for merely asking the wrong questions or for asking the right questions but without the required level of obsequiousness or even for raising a topic.

That's just my opinion, for what its worth.

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Re: What i learnt from taking part on L P

Post by Graham Bell on Sun Feb 09 2014, 16:05

I would like to emphasize that when I said, in my comment above, "That went right across the board" I was referring to a whole range of forums in Australia and I was certainly not picking on Larvatus Prodeo.

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